@Zeb, with 2.0, are you guys looking to bring process management into the mix or just looking for now to incorporate a mind-mapping interface?
I am really looking forward to this - for brainstorming and outlining this would be priceless! Seamless coversion from mindmap to project/whatever hierchy level and vice versa would for me be the final push.
Don't know if this has been suggested, but you guys should look at Droptask.... hated everything about Droptask but the brainstorming part.
@Sean Crowe: This. Brainstorming was excelent, but complex task management a hadache. Also, the locked-in attitude.
Filled out the survey. Really looking forward to this. Might I suggest implementing hotkeys. When I first started using mindmaps it was like a digital whiteboard but over time I learned shortcuts and started using it to quickly structure projects, ideas, taxonomies. It's a small thing that gives folks the path to become power users and in turn get so much more out the core feature.
Here is some sample shortcuts
http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Keyboard_shortcuts
Filled in the survey. Curious what you are cooking up! I use mindmaps typically to sketch on paper and it is very unstructured (at least in layers), so no clear idea yet how it best translates. I only have brief experience with meistertask/meistermind, so maybe that helps a bit.
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Mind Maps will be released as part of ClickUp 2.0, coming very soon.
Copy this... https://casual.pm/ it is pretty cool... at least the video idea on their homepage... but their software is far too limited.
Or this... https://www.processmaker.com
@Jason Hull: task management and bpm are approximately 5 light years apart :) ... there is BPML and all that sh**, capable process servers, etc. (think camunda, bonita, etc.) But some simple process ability like you described (casual.pm) would be HUGE win for clickup.
@Milan Košir: @Zeb Casual.pm looks really cool.
@zeb-1 : www.processmaker.com is an example of what can happen when Automation and Mindmapping (two planned features for Clickup 2.0) are working together in Clickup. Keep the visualisation of Automation in mind and combine its development with the mindmap feature. or better...make it one solution.
@Yuri : If this is what Clickup 2.0 is about, I'm totally in. Project/List/Task templates and (pbm) process instances are just one step away. There are many tools which simplified bpm on consumer level (like process.st - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzn9_IkPhmU). Again, I'm looking forward to see how amazing team on clickup will approach this problem.
@Milan Košir: I agree. It would be a smart move of the Clickup development team if they first focus on making tasks 'entities' which are independent of any container, and allow custom relationships (and relationship types). If that foundation is accomplished, and the feature Automation is introduced as expected, the display of mindmaps or any visual representation of these relationships, is an easy and logical result of that.
@Chris Cunningham since you opened this post, does that indicate that you are responsible for development of this feature?
@Yuri : I don't think that process management and mind mapping are necessary related. Visualization of business processes is actually a completely different thing (branching, conditional logic, etc) from Buzan mind mapping concept. And I also totally overlooked goals feature, so ... my bad. I think that with goals and/or task dependencies you can make a simple BPM...
integrate with realtimeboard, it does way more than mindmapping
Best mind mapping functionality I have ever used is from lucidcharts. I think taking a look at there implementation would be good thing to model after :)
Would be great to have the possibility to create, oversee and work with a WBS (Chart view) directly in Click Up. This would be similar to a mind map, but the difference is that this is a view. WBS view.
What would this feature give you:
Being able to make a task and Click Up would add this to the WBS chart
Being able to draw a chart and Click Up would add this to task list
Presenting tasks to a team is very important, and a WBS Chart feature would fulfill that need.
I'm a long time mind map user, I tried/used almost all mind mapping tools from free programs like mindmup and freemind to comercial products like MindManager and iMindMap. Beside Gantt simplicity like on monday.com - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5G3ZwXz-LA, MindMap view is my biggest wish for ClickUp!!!
Maybe your could take some inspiration from recent iMindMap versions: for example Radial Map View (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YC8kNVWcqw), Time Map View (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNS92A18hog) and Bubble Group View (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MScsPJiiUGQ). Beside this MindManager is THE best mind mapping program ever created, so it is the best source if you want to incorporate some mind mapping into ClickUp. Good luck with this feature!
ps Maybe you could get some inspiration in Zenkit, which also incorporated MindMapping (in a very simple form)
@MI: I agree with your every word.
@MI: Why don't think about to make a integration with ClickUp?
I'm loving Airtable but they have no offline mode and maybe some stuck for me. I do love Clickup (all-in-one) so the last thing I one want is Mind Mapping & Spread Sheet view as a real connection database the same with Airtable.
add features of mind maps and spread sheet view of tasks to do some calculation for tasks also.. Like to estimate time then and there.. Also we like to see progress bars in terms of units of work done and completion of estimated time...for every task and subtask to become the best in the world.
1) The one thing I'd need from a basic mindmapping tool is the ability to add cross-dependencies. Not all tasks can be organized under the same branch however often there are tasks that have a relationship with other tasks - usually blocked until finished. If there's at least that ability would be awesome. I'd love to be able to 'name' the cross dependency/relationship line, but not sure how that would translate when converting a mind map into a space/project. Perhaps in the description? Dunno.
2) Mind meister has the ability to already assign branches/tasks - it helps when brainstorming, a sort of 'they're on it' peace of mind.
3) Descriptions of points - open the point and edit the description. No commenting, just description.
If you could mimic freeplane, you would be 90% there.
Take a lool at Mindmeister and its seamless integration in Meistertask. Could be inspiring to you :)
Make is simple. Mind map creation is always a fun. and if you can create tasks from mindmap heads. I think it will be a perfect tool.
+1 For this being another view! Waiting for some PM Tool to do it since years!
What about integrate with http://draw.io?
@Matheus Rocha Vieira: yea this sounds a lot better than creating a whole other feature we have to wait for
The basics will be to translate the mindmaps (nodes at different levels) to tasks at different level (unlimited). At Clickup, we could go only as far as checklist/subtasks. Definitely need to sort this out first.
@CY CHAN: ah. interesting point although technically going from Team to checklists at 5 levels of order, you would have 11 mapable levels. If I'm doing that math right... or maybe 12, considering a task / sub-task can have multiple and discreet checklists
Woohoo planned!
I recorded my monthly WOOP (Wish, Outcome, Obstacle Plan) using the notepad today for the 1st time.
The tasks I created from the Plan are in different projects and I thought tasks having an association to a notepad doc would be helpful.
But then it hit me that a mindmap view where I could see the whole picture, drag tasks to other projects / lists, or highlight task relationships would be awesome.
I think this will work better as a native CU feature but a realtime 2-way sync with a 3rd party mindmap app might fit the bill.
BTW, I know this isn't trivial so instead of calling this a feature request, please consider it a pie-in-the-sky suggestion :)
Exciting
or something like awwapp, the whiteboard which we can freely type or draw anything especially useful on brainstorming stage
Just a thought:
The bigger picture is about brainstorming ideas quickly and the latter is about visualizing "projects" with a mind map that is well designed and quite presentable.
My experience in psychology and computing has led me to discover these facts (hope this benefits you guys too in return):
1. We love those colors [the interface] in X-Mind e.t.c So be it.
2.But Brainstorming Ideas [Idea Factory] by typing them out (the way we do in X-mind) and auto-obtaining the map from a set of themes is faster and time saving, than to draw the mind-map from scratch, customizing it in detail!
Think about it
@Dean Wood: I am with Dean. I do not think we need a big mind-mapping module to compete with theMindmaster/Xmind and likes. Just a simple module to organize your thoughts quickly in a mind map and then convert it to native Clickup format.
@Douglas Bento, I agree, yes two-way would be nice. I could, however, live with a clean one-way implementation for a while
@Harald Kurz: Yes, that is true, the idea (brainstorming) and optionally selecting a theme is more efficient than making map (a more bottoms-up approach especially on a computer)
1. brain-storming(thought process is faster) +computer generates a nice map -> conversion to a nice mind-map = faster
2. choosing blocks + brain-storming + then you'd start thinking about beauty at first sight = time consuming, not the sole purpose of click-up I believe.
...and yea I've spent a lot of time with other software this way, especially in the millennial world, you're not just a project manager but a director of your entire life, with so many tasks to juggle around!
So,yeah, IDEA FACTORY -> Min-Map generated is how our mind actually works better
And I believe click-up was designed even for the "common man" out there...day to day activities and the likes, so yea...do think about it click up...so far so good ...cheers guys
I don't feel click up needs all that color and formatting power as X-mind. This one should be a QUICK brain-storming feature and save time. Just a thought.
this could be amazing
See also Organizational diagram.. https://feedback.clickup.com/feature-requests/p/organization-chart
Again I vote for an integrated generic solution that makes use of relationship fields. I see two solutions, a simple one and a robust one.
Simple solution:
The custom field 'relationship' which is planned, will allow two way reference between any item and container and can have a name. Mindmapping is just a visual reporting method that displays the relationships. If there comes a page where items can be created dragged and dropped while these relationships are automatically created, a basic mindmapping solution is created.
A more robust solution:
Relationships as fieldable items. This is based on the generic 'item' .(previously named Task) and thus allows for more information to be stored in the relationship, because any custom field can be added to the relationship like image, and even tmany to many relationships.
It can also store information about whether it is a one way or two way relationship, to distinguish between for example 'A and B are friends' or 'A works for B'.
Third party mindmap tools:
I would love it they can be based on the existing item container and custom fields structure.
integration with xmind
MindMeister & MeisterTask they have a great integration between mind map and boards if that will be possible in clickup you will have the best app in the world!
@Nuno Pires: YEPP !!!
Dear all, I think we have 2 use cases here
a) being able to structure your project as an initial mind map and then being able to convert it into a clickup structure
b) display an existing clickup structure as a mindmap view.
Whilst I think b) would be useful, a) would be the feature to give Clickup a huge advantage over similar products. The art to it would be to keep it really simple, just mindmap note-representations of a space, project, list, task, subtask. And a button to convert it into a clickup space setup.
@Harald Kurz: Why we don't think about a integration of existing mindmap-tools for "a)"?
And for "b)" a feature that corresponds with Gantt ...
I think that we need to be careful here. The images I saw in the comments represent 2 different things.
A flow chart would be showing the order and hierarchy of a series of actions. A little like an itinerary with all the stop and turn to arrive at the finished project. This one would also work very nicely with Gantt charts as it<s very similar concept showed differently..
Mindmap is an app design to put together ideas, together in order to use those ideas to form a project. Like a brainstorm with good and bad ideas to evaluate. It's used to group ideas by "subject" in order to have a better picture of what needs to be taken into account. It also can be use to figure out everything that need to be considered before starting a new project.
This one would be harder to switch between task and chart because the mindmap can have very deep branch that would not enter into task/subtack.
Since we have the Gantt chart coming soon, I think the mindmap would be more interesting if only one of them can be done...
@Yves Leduc: Agree!!! +1
From Harold:
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What I have not found in any project planning tool so far is a lightweight integrated mindmapping tool. What I am envisioning is a simple integrated tool to draw a mind map with, which is aware of different node-types like projects, lists, tasks, subtasks. And when you are done with your structural planning of your project in a mindmap, you have a “convert” button which reformats it into the standard clickup project structure. All the prioritisation, assignments, due dates etc can then be done in the current app. I am just looking for a planning aide to structure my project visually during conception
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@Zeb: Perfect!! Could it be two ways? In the sense that after you make changes to the converted version, if you want to see it back as a mind map, say for a presentation, it converts back?
Mind Mapping views of subtasks/tasks/lists/projects in association with the planned gantt chart views would be amazing! Mind maps provide intuitive visual insight into the conceptual structure of a project that one can't get from lists, and that capability in ClickUp would put it in a class of its own in my view. It'd be great to have the ability to create a mind map for each project.
Would it be useful if we can create a mindmap or whiteboard for a project? Say, it would be a separate page where you can build it.
You may also link tasks to items in mindmap and track the whole progress.
We have list, box, and board view, but what about a mind map type project? Easier for working on projects that require a map as they have so many different connectors.
I agree with Ali Zaidan.
Would be very useful tool to brainstorm and plan a project and to illustrate and better understand how the list and task fit together .
I was just about to suggest the same idea. But the picture posted in you post does not sound like mind mapping it is more like a flowchart,, this one below does. Hope to see this feature soon, it will be a blast.
@Ali Zaidan: I second what you say, this IS mindmapping. I don't want to see a gant style mind mapping, those are two separate fonctions.
Sounds like a unique selling point to me! :)
This sounds complicated to develop, but it would be great 👌
@Elliott Mangham: I have no idea of the intricacies of coding but just thought it would be pretty neat and a unique selling point for sure...I am an ideas woman! :)
@Alice O'Connor: totally agree, and I'm sure it's possible! :-)
+1 too for mindmaps being another view type!
+1 for mindmaps being another view type
I would write a lot about the Mindmap, but my English is bad :)
@Евгений Степанов: Hi Yevgeny , You shouldn't let this stop you. Ideas can be stated simply and pictures can be added to make your point. I will not judge your ideas on your English. I am sure that your point of view would be valuable.
@Barry Morgan: thanks! I'll think about it.
@Евгений Степанов: @Zeb I like this a lot! +1.
A very good example, zenkit. Thank you for adding customization features.
That would be AWESOME but in all honesty I think there are much more prsessing/easier features to implement.
@Michał A. Nowakowski: i agree
Thanks Chris!
I don't need a TON of bells and whistles in the mind map, but templates are a huge help so that I don't have to painstakingly re-set the appearance of every 'leg' I create. There will be hundreds! I'd love to change the set level appearance with a right click (or whatever works), in case one of my forking branches needs to look like a different level in the template (as an exception).
I'd love to be able to switch from List view to Mind Map view, so I can see the whole plan but then switch back to see what status each leg is on. It makes more sense to me to have more details in the list view, but less clutter in the mind map view.
Importing a staggered list (such as from WorkFlowy or Moo.do) straight into a mind map would be freaking awesome, but I don't mind having to import into list view before changing to mind map view.
I know apps are a real pain in the butt, but full View switch capability in android and apple would be a dream! (but not a dealbreaker). That said, if mind maps aren't viewable in the apps, I'll probably have to stick with a separate mind map that does have full mobile access. Unless I can view them on my web browser instead. Tomato, tomahto.
Agree! I could simply be a 4th view in addition to the box/list/board
@Sean Hoyt: Absolutely!! I'll be thrilled if it comes out ASAP.
Good idea, this is currently a feature in MeisterTask (Trello-like project management) but only integrated with their own MindMeister mind mapping tool. Integration with XMind would be perfect.
+ integration with mindmaps tools (XMind) to create projects, tasks and subtasks from the mindmap
+ auto dependencies from the Mindmaps
it will be really nice to have an implementation something like https://zenkit.com/ does. Seameless View of Tasks as Gantt and MindMap